30:44Bob McGrew traces OpenAI’s shift from early robotics and game projects toward large language models, arguing that scale and generalization connected those efforts. He describes how reasoning and test-time compute may help models overcome pretraining data limits and make agents reliable enough to take actions. He also discusses how AI startups should begin with the strongest available model, then optimize for cost after finding value with users. The talk closes on AI’s effects on work, the need for useful software tailored to people’s workflows, and the prospect of robotics and scientific progress.



