22:52Stan Chudnovsky explains why Dust chose to build a horizontal, model-agnostic AI platform for workplace collaboration while frontier labs rapidly improve their models. He says AI is beginning to reshape work, and that model choice can shift over time, making independence from any one provider valuable. For vertical AI products, he argues that better models weaken scaffolding as a moat, so network effects and other defensible advantages matter more. He also discusses Dust’s measured fundraising, building in France, the move from seat-based to credit-based pricing as usage grows, and the importance of a durable company vision.



