37:53The talk explains how recursion can give AI models more reasoning depth at inference time without requiring more parameters. It compares hierarchical reasoning models (HRM) with tiny recursive models (TRM), highlighting repeated refinement of latent states and truncated backpropagation as key ideas. The speakers argue that these methods can solve tasks such as Sudoku and ARC with small, task-specific models, without step-by-step reasoning traces. They close by suggesting that recursive reasoning could complement the broad representations learned by large language models.
