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Vertical AI Agents Could Be 10X Bigger Than SaaS

Nov 22, 2024· 42 min· 1.0M views·Watch on YouTube

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Y Combinator partner Jared Harge discusses the business potential of vertical AI agents with Gary, Jared, Diana, and other Lightcone hosts on The Lightcone.

SaaS grew from a web technology shift

Harge compares AI agents with the SaaS boom that followed the spread of XMLHttpRequest, which let websites behave more like desktop apps. He says over 40% of venture capital went to SaaS over the prior 20 years, producing more than 300 SaaS unicorns. Broad consumer categories mostly went to incumbents, while specialized B2B software created room for many startups.

AI could change how startups scale

The hosts discuss whether LLMs will let companies grow revenue without hiring at the same pace. Harge suggests hiring engineers who can automate specific growth bottlenecks, rather than building large teams for functions such as customer success or sales. He points to the possibility of a future unicorn operating with around 10 employees.

Vertical agents can replace software and labor

Harge argues that a vertical AI company can combine software with the people who operate it, potentially capturing payroll spending as well as software budgets. Examples include Outset applying LLMs to surveys, Matic automating QA testing, and A Priora handling technical and initial recruiter screening. The hosts note that selling to teams whose jobs may be replaced can create resistance, so some products need executive-level support.

Specialized agents need deep workflows

Harge says simple customer support bots often cannot replace teams handling complex work. He cites Giga ML, which handles 30,000 daily tickets for Zepto and uses an evaluation set of 10,000 test cases. The examples suggest agents may need specialized workflows and data for each industry before broader platforms can serve many customers.

Find repetitive work you know well

The hosts discuss voice agents in auto loan collections and the rapid improvement in voice quality and latency. They close by advising founders to look for boring, repetitive administrative tasks in fields they understand or can access. Examples include bidding on government contracts and processing dental insurance claims.

Takeaways

  • Look for repetitive administrative work where people already spend substantial time and money.
  • Use domain knowledge or customer access to discover the details of a workflow.
  • Build for the complete, complex workflow if the goal is to replace a team, rather than offering a simple demo.
  • Plan sales around the people who can approve adoption, especially when the product changes staffing needs.
  • Use engineers and LLM systems to automate specific growth bottlenecks before adding large teams.

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    subagents: Jared predicts companies in this category could exceed $300 billion in value
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    SaaS: Over 40% of venture capital dollars over the prior 20 years went to SaaS companies
    “Over 40% of all venture capital dollars in that time period went to SaaS companies”
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    XMLHttpRequest: Enabled rich internet applications in browsers by allowing websites to behave more like desktop applications
    “browsers added this JavaScript function, XMLHttpRequest, which was the missing piece”
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    Viaweb: Online store and early SaaS application
    “Viaweb was an online store, kind of like Shopify”
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    Matic: AI agent for QA testing intended to replace QA teams
    “Matic ... is essentially an AI agent. They're starting with QA testing”
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    Parable: AI agent designed to handle complicated customer support workflows
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    GigaML: Handles 30,000 tickets every day and replaces a team of 1,000 people at Zepto
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