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The Better Customer–Startups or Big Enterprise?

Aug 26, 2022· 17 min· 65K views·Watch on YouTube

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Y Combinator group partners Michael and Brad Hargreaves discuss when selling software to startups makes sense, in an Inside the Group Partner Lounge conversation with Harj.

When startups are the wrong customers

Some products solve problems that mainly appear at larger companies, such as Snowflake’s data warehouse and Workday’s comprehensive HR suite. Selling to startups that lack the problem can create misleading interest without a viable market.

The costs of startup customers

Startup customers can be just as demanding to support as enterprise users, while paying less. They may also churn as they grow: HR tools, Heroku, and lightweight CRMs can stop meeting a larger organization’s needs when the buyer or end user changes.

Selling to startups can avoid sales work only in theory

The speakers describe a belief that self-serve signup, ads, or friendly introductions to other founders can replace sales. They argue that founders still need to reach prospects, earn replies, explain the product, and change customer behavior.

When startup sales create a path forward

Gusto used startups to refine payroll software before expanding into the broader small-business market. AWS used developers at startups to build adoption and advocates who could help introduce its cloud services to larger companies, though enterprise sales teams were still needed.

Choose a strategy and study examples

The closing advice is to decide which strategy fits: retain companies as they grow, as Stripe did; use startup customers to refine a product for another market, as Gusto did; or build bottom-up adoption that can support enterprise sales, as AWS did. Founders can study companies that have already followed the path they want to take.

Takeaways

  • Check whether your target customers actually have the problem before treating their interest as evidence of demand.
  • Estimate support costs and whether customers will churn when their organization, buyer, or end users change.
  • Treat self-serve signup and founder introductions as starting points, not a complete customer acquisition strategy.
  • Use startup customers deliberately: to retain them as they grow, improve a product for another market, or build advocates for enterprise sales.
  • Choose a customer strategy and study companies that have executed it successfully.

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    Brad Hargreaves is group partner at Y Combinator
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    Michael is group partner at Y Combinator
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    PagerDuty: Had other startups as early customers
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    Stripe: Started as a payments processor for other YC startups
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    Snowflake: Suited to organizations with massive amounts of data in warehouses
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    Workday: Early customers reportedly made six- or seven-figure deals
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    Heroku: Customers churned as their companies grew
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