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Why K-12 Education Is Broken for High Achieving Kids

Nov 17, 2024· 38 min· 2.1K views·Watch on YouTube

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Niels Hoven, founder of Mentava, joins Peter Yang to discuss why schools often fail to support high-achieving students, how Mentava uses software for self-paced learning, and what AI might add to education.

How schools define success

Hoven argues that U.S. education policy often prioritizes closing achievement gaps over helping each student reach their potential. He points to San Francisco’s limits on above-grade-level instruction and the fight over eighth-grade algebra as examples of reducing opportunities for advanced students. He says this approach can leave students bored and their learning needs unmet.

Who loses when schools limit acceleration

Hoven says policymakers often judge schools by how much they close gaps between high and struggling achievers. He argues that families with money can turn to tutors, private schools, or after-school programs, while families who rely on public schools have fewer alternatives. He encourages parents to advocate for their children and says that can mean finding a different school or teaching at home.

Building self-paced learning with Mentava

Hoven describes learning math independently in school, then explains Mentava’s goal of letting children study academics at their own pace while keeping school’s childcare and social roles. During the pandemic, he used phonics software and DreamBox with his children, including a two-year-old who wanted to join in. Mentava focuses first on reading, using phonics, games, and animated farm animals to keep young learners engaged; a parent reported that a three-year-old reached roughly mid-first-grade reading level in three months, which Hoven calls an outlier.

Motivation, math, and AI

Hoven distinguishes reading, which relies heavily on learning sounds and building fluency, from math, where software must check whether a child understands concepts or has only memorized answers. He says games can help children move from external rewards toward the satisfaction of making progress, while recognizing the responsibility involved in using engagement techniques. He sees AI as a coach that can help a confused student return to a carefully designed learning path.

Credentials and advice for parents

Hoven argues that colleges often act as costly talent screeners because K–12 schools do little to help students distinguish themselves. He suggests that projects, internships, and useful work can demonstrate ability earlier than a degree, and says he does not want his children to fixate on grades or elite admissions. His advice to parents is to advocate for their children while keeping academics balanced with play and time with friends.

Takeaways

  • Treat grade-level standards as a floor, and give students room to move ahead when they are ready.
  • When advocating for a child, consider options beyond the classroom, including independent study, tutoring, or another school.
  • Use educational software to support active practice, with a parent helping a young child stay on task.
  • In learning software, check for conceptual understanding as well as memorized answers.
  • Build skills and evidence of ability through real projects, not only grades or credentials.

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